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7 Dec 1866, Louis Herman Grimmer was born in Leipzig, Stötteritz, Saxony, Sachsen, Germany to  August & Wilhelmine Grimmer of Leipzig, Germany.   




Herman first married Johannah M. “Annie” Poetzch about 1886 in Germany.  Annie was born Jan 1867 in Germany and died the first week of June 1920 in Dolgeville, Herkimer, NY.  She is buried in Dolgeville Cemetery (just 1920 is on the tombstone).  There is a tombstone (a tall upright monument about 6’ to 7’ high) with Herman & Johanna both on it, however; Herman was not buried there, he died in Leipzig of pneumonia, that is why his death date was left blank & Annie’s just reads 1920.  He also remarried after Annie died.  His widow remained in Germany, her name may have been Clara Riemeyer (I need to research this further).    (Herman took a trip in Sept 1920 to tour Switzerland and Holland, he actually returned to Germany,  remarried and died there, he was about 62 yrs old). 




Anna gave birth to their eldest son, Herman, in Germany in 1887.  She must have came to America with the baby sometime in the year 1888, however; she claims she immigrated in 1887 & 1888 (from census records)  but I have not been able to locate their passage to America as of yet. (I did find a passage for a “Johanna Postch and son Hermn (sic)” in 1888 that fit their descriptions perfectly, but I can not confirm that this was our Johanna & Herman).




21 Feb 1886 Their son Herman Carl Charles Grimmer was born in Leipzig, Stötteritz, Saxony, Sachsen, Germany.  He married Dorathy P. of Liverpool, England.  They had a son in 1932 in Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey.




Journey to America...


On 27 Jul 1887 - Herman was found aboard the “SS Polynesia” sailing to America at the age of 21 as Louis Herman Grimmer; he left Hamburg, Germany on 27 of Jul 1887 and arrived at the Port of New York on 12 Aug 1887.  His residence prior to leaving Hamburg was “Stotteritz, Sachsen.” 




  1. (from Hamburg, Germany in German) Line 33: Grimmer Louis H; 21 yrs Stotterits, Sachsen



  2. (from the Port of New York-arrival) Line 7: Louis H. Grimmer; 21 yrs; workman; Saxonia; N. York









02 Jan 1889 Their son Alfred Luella Grimmer was born in Dolgeville, Herkimer, New York.





In 1889, in the Herkimer County Directory, 1889-90 , page 258, Herman Grimmer was found residing in the township of Manheim, city of Dolgeville, county of Herkimer in the state of New York, USA; as a shoemaker, along with brothers Ernest Grimmer, a blacksmith and Max Grimmer, a shoemaker.  They were all residing at “house Howard.”  (actually Howard St. in Dolgeville)


  1. Grimmer Ernest, blacksmith, house Howard

  2. Grimmer Herman, shoemaker, house Howard

  3. Grimmer Max, shoemaker, house Howard





03 Jan 1890 Their son Emil A Grimmer was born in Dolgeville, Herkimer, New York.




Herman and Anna had a son Carl Grimmer whom was born about 1892.  Family records state he was about three years old when he passed away, however; if this was the case then he would have been listed in the 1892 & 1894 census collections.




On 16 Feb 1892 Herman was found in Manheim (Dolgeville) in the NY State Census Collection with his family as; Hermin Grimmer, 26, Germany, Plumber; Annie, 26, Germany; Alfred, 3, U.S.; Emil, 2, U.S..  (son Herman is not listed here, he would have been 5 yrs; I did find a passage from Germany in 1894 with a Herman Grimmer, age 7, sailing with Marie Engels & her children who were heading for Little Falls, NY; this would explain his absence from his family).  I believe Herman was working as a plumber for Dolge Plumbing Co. in Dolgesville at this time.  Listed below Herman is his brother Karl Grimmer, 37, Germany, Operator; Bertha, 30, Germany; Oswald, 8, Germany; Curt, 4, Germany; Wm, 3, U.S.; & two more young children, males, ages 2 & 1.


  1. Herman Grimmer, M, 26 yrs, Germany, C, Plumber
  2. Anna Grimmer, F, 26 yrs, Germany

  3. Alfred Grimmer, M, 3 yrs, US

  4. Emil Grimmer, M, 2 yrs, US

  5. Karl Grimmer, M, 37 yrs, Germany, C, Operator

  6. Bertha Grimmer, F, 30 yrs, Germany

  7. Oswald Grimmer, M, 8 yrs, Germany

  8. Curt Grimmer, M, 4 yrs, US

  9. Wm Grimmer, M, 3 yrs, US

  10. ____ Grimmer, M, 2 yrs, US

  11. ____ Grimmer, M, 1 yrs, US




On 18 Oct 1892 Herman was Naturalized...before the County Court of Herkimer Co. at Herkimer, NY.” I found this statement on a passport application for Herman on 31 Jul 1920.  He stated his date of birth was 7 Dec 1866, place of birth was Leipzig, Stotteritz, Saxony.  His father is August Grimmer, born in Germany, is now deceased.  He sailed from Hamburg Jul 1887.  He has resided in the US for 33 years from 1887 to 1920 at Dolgeville, NY.




In 1893-94, in the William’s Dolgeville Directory, 1893-94 , page 154, Herman Grimmer was found residing in Little Falls, county of Herkimer in the state of New York, USA; as a shoemaker.  His brother Carl Grimmer is listed as living on Spencer St.



  1. Grimmer Carl, h. 18 Spencer

  2. Grimmer Herm, shoemaker, h. Little Falls av. n. Slawson





30 Nov 1893 Their daughter Anna M Grimmer was born in Dolgeville, Herkimer, New York.







28 Sep 1895 Their son Fritz Ernst “Fred” Grimmer was born in Dolgeville, Herkimer, New York.






07 May 1898 Their son Richard E Grimmer was born in Dolgeville, Herkimer, New York.






On 14 Jun 1900 Herman is found as “Herman Grimmer” in the 1900 Fed Census for Manheim, Dolgeville, Herkimer, NY.: Herman, b. Dec 1866, 33, m 14 yrs (1886), Germany, imm. 1887, Naturalized (1892), Felt Shoe Sewer (Daniel Green Shoe Factory in Dolgeville); Annie, Jan 1867, 33, 6 of 6 children living, Germany, imm. 1887; Herman, Feb 1887, 13, Germany, imm. 1887, Laborer, Shoe Factory; Alfred, Jan 1889, 11, NY, At School; Emil, Jan 1890, 10, NY, At School; Annie, Nov 1893, 6, NY, At School; Fritz, Sept 1895, 4, NY; Richard, May 1898, 2, NY.


  1. Line 87: Grimmer Herman, Head, White, Male, Dec 1866, 33 yrs, married 14 yrs, born in Germany, Parents born in Germany, Immigrated in 1887, Naturalized, He is a Felt Shoe Sewer, Rents his home
  2. Line 88: Grimmer Annie, Wife, White, Female, Jan 1867, 33 yrs, married 14 yrs, gave birth to six children, six children living [she didn’t list giving birth to Carl & him dieing], Born in Germany, Parents born in Germany, Immigrated in 1887

  3. Line 89: Grimmer Herman, Son, White, Male Feb 1887, 13 yrs, Single, Born in Germany, Parents born in Germany, Immigrated in 1887, He is a Laborer at Shoe Factory [Daniel Green]

  4. Line 90: Grimmer Alfred, Son, White, Male, Jan 1889, 11 yrs, Single, Born in New York, Parents born in Germany, At School

  5. Line 91: Grimmer Emil, Son, White, Male, Jan 1890, 10 yrs, Single, Born in New York, Parents born in Germany, At School

  6. Line 92: Grimmer Annie, Daughter, White, Female, Nov 1893, 6 yrs, Single, Born in New York, Parents born in Germany, At School

  7. Line 93: Grimmer Fritz, Son, White, Male, Sept 1895, 4 yrs, Single, Born in New York, Parents born in Germany

  8. Line 94: Grimmer Richard, Son, White, Male, May 1898, 2 yrs, Single, Born in New York, Parents born in Germany


Daniel Green Felt Shoe Factory, Dolgeville, New York






29 Oct 1901 Their son Paul Grimmer was born in Dolgeville, Herkimer, New York.  No record of marriage or children have been found for Paul.






13 Aug 1902, Herman performed a soprano solo at the Barney Opera House, with accompaniment by the Maennerchoir as part of a program for the “Farewell Concert” for Professor Dannhauser who is relocating to Gloversville and will be instructing the German Singing Society there.  Herman’s children Anna and Alfred also performed in the children’s symphony.










Herman’s eldest son Herman Jr. left home at an early age.  He enlisted in the Marines on 16 Jun 1904 at the age of 17 and by Jul 1904 he was stationed at the Marine Barracks, Navy Yard in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.







16 Apr 1907, A transfer of property in Dolgeville between a Theodore H. Roth and Wife to Herman was found taken place on this date.  This may be the residence on Howard Street.







On 3 May 1910 Herman was found in the 1910 Fed Census for Manheim, Dolgeville, Herkimer, NY residing on Howard St. as: Grimmer, Herman L., 46, md for 22 yrs, Edge Setter at Shoe Factory (Daniel Green), Naturalized; Anna M. 43, ; Alfred 21; Emel O. 20; Anna M. 16; Fritz 15; Richard 11; Paul 8. 



  1. Line 52: Grimmer Herman L, Head, Male White, 43 yrs, first marriage, married for 22 yrs, born in Germany, Parents born in Germany, Immigrated in 1887, Naturalized,Speaks English, He is an Edge Setter at the Shoe Factory
  2. Line 53: Grimmer Anna M, Wife, Female, White, 43 yrs, first marriage, married for 22 yrs, born in Germany, Parents born in Germany, Immigrated in 1887, Naturalized,Speaks English,gave birth to seven -marked over with eight -children, seven children living, born in Germany, Parents born in Germany, Immigrated in 1888, Naturalized,Speaks English

  3. Line 54: Grimmer Alfred L, Son, Male, White, 21 yrs, Single, Born in New York, Parents born in Germany, Speaks English, He is a Laster at the Shoe Factory

  4. Line 55: Grimmer Emel O, Son, Male, White, 20 yrs, Single, Born in New York, Parents born in Germany, Speaks English, He is a Cutter at the Shoe Factory

  5. Line 56: Grimmer Anna M, Daughter, Female, White, 16 yrs, Single, Born in New York, Parents born in Germany, Speaks English, She is an Ornament Maker at the Shoe Factory

  6. Line 57: Grimmer Fritz H, Son, Male, White, 15 yrs, Single, Born in New York, Parents born in Germany, Speaks English, He is an Edge Setter at the Shoe Factory

  7. Line 58: Grimmer Richard, Son, Male, White, 11 yrs, Single, Born in New York, Parents born in Germany, Speaks English

  8. Line 60: Grimmer Paul, Son, Male, White, 8 yrs, Single, Born in New York, Parents born in Germany,


Herman & Anna have been recorded as residing on Howard St. in Dolgeville since 1889 (11 years).  In this census it is clear that Herman owns his home, but has a mortgage on it.







22 Aug 1910, Herman and daughter Anna were found returning from a trip to New York.  Herman also returned to work on this day after being ill for three months.







4 July 1915, Herman and family take a trip to their cottage at Spruce Lake for the Fourth of July Holiday.







On 10 Jan 1920 Herman was found residing at Spoffard Avenue in Dolgeville as: Grimmer, Louis H., 53, m, 1887, Na, 1892, edge setter, shoe factory; Anna, 53, m, 1888, Na, 1892; Richard, 21, S, apprentice, plumbing shop; Paul, 18, S, shoe worker, shoe factory


  1. Line 53: Grimmer Lewis H, Head, Owns home, Male, White, 53 yrs, Married, Immigrated in 1887, Naturalized in 1892, Can read & write, Born in Saxony Germany, Parents born in Germany, Speaks English, He is an Edgesetter at Shoe Factory
  2. Line 54: Grimmer Annie, Wife, Female, White, 53 yrs, Married, Immigrated in 1888, Naturalized in 1892, Can read & write, Born in Saxony Germany, Parents born in Germany, Speaks English

  3. Line 55: Grimmer Richard, Son, Male, White, 21 yrs, Single, Can read & write, Born in New York, Parents born in Germany, Speaks, English, He is an Apprentice at the Plumping Shop [possibly Dolge Plumbing]

  4. Line 56: Grimmer Paul, Son, Male, White, 18 yrs, Single, Can read & write, Born in New York, Parents born in Germany, Speaks, English, He is a Shoe Worker at the Shoe Factory





The Passing of a Loved One...

1st Week of June 1920, Annie Grimmer passed away.  The Little Falls NY Journal and Courier posted her death on 8 Jun 1920 as:


“-Mrs. Louis Hermann Grimmer died last week [would make her death the first week of June] at her home on Spofford avenue, after an illness of several months caused by carcinoma.  Mrs. Grimmer was born in Leipzig, Germany, 53 years ago, her maiden name being Anna Poetzch.  She married there to Mr. Grimmer in 1887 and in 1888 the couple became permanent residents of Dolgeville.  Deceased was the mother of a large family and was a woman held in kindest regard by all her friends for her admirable character and amiable personality.  Besides her husband she is survived by seven children, being Hermann, Jr., of New Orleans; Emil, of Webster City, Iowa; Mrs. Wm Riehl, Alfred, Fritz of Little Falls, Richard and Paul of this village.  Five grandchildren and two sisters living in Germany.  The funeral was held from the late home Friday afternoon.  Rev. C. A. Moulton of the Univeralist church officiated, and burial was made in the local cemetery [Dolgeville Cemetery].”






   

On 31 Jul 1920 Herman filled out an application for a passport.  He was going to tour Holland & Switzerland for six months.  He was sailing aboard the “SS Manchuria” in Sept 1920.  His son Alfred Grimmer was a witness for him.


                           






24 Aug 1920, Herman took a leave from Daniel Green Felt Shoe Factory for several months after his wife passed away.  The Little Falls NY Journal and Courier, posted his leaving on 24 Aug 1920:


”Herman Grimmer has taken several months leave of absence from his place of employment in the finishing department of the Daniel Green Felt Shoe Co., where he has worked for the last 33 years.  Mr. Grimmer left on the anniversary of his entry to the plant.  His fellow laborers ceased from their labors for some time and gave him a number of presents, besides expressing their high esteem.  Mr. Grimmer departed for New Orleans, accompanied by his daughter-in-law, Mrs. Herman Grimmer, Jr., who recently came here from Liverpool and who will join her husband at the southern metropolis.  Young Herman is an engineer in the U.S. merchant marine service, running between Havana and New Orleans.  From New Orleans Mr. Grimmer will go to Galveston and thence to Webster City to spend some time with his sons Emil and Paul.  He expects to be absent several months.”


Herman must not have told his employer of his plans to tour Switzerland and Holland nor of his plans to return to Germany because he was found leaving for Germany in 1921.  Why else would he apply for a passport, leave his job and take the time to travel America to visit his children and relatives, he planned on not returning to America.





The Passing of a Loved One...



Herman died of pneumonia on 6 Oct 1928 in Leipzig, Stötteritz, Saxony, Germany.


His death was announced in the Utica NY Observer dated 15 Oct 1928:


“Herman Grimmer.  Dolgeville, Oct. 6--Word has been received here of the death of Herman Grimmer, formerly of this village, which occurred in Leipzig, Germany, of pneumonia.

Mr. Grimmer was born in Germany and came to this village as a young man, working for a number of years for the Daniel Green Felt Shoe Company.  He went back to Germany in 1921 and had been there since.  His first wife died in this village in 1920.  Mr. Grimmer who was about 67 years old is survived by his widow and by a daughter, Mrs. William Riehl and  these sons, Alfred Grimmer of this village, Fritz and Paul of Syracuse, Emil of Iowa and Herman.

Mr. Grimmer was one of the lead members of the old Dolgeville Turnverein.”







In 1930 The only Grimmer I found in the Federal Census for Little Falls or Dolgeville, Herkimer, NY was their daughter Anna (Grimmer) Riehl & her Family residing at 8 Spoffard Square in Dolgeville.  I have gone through every census record for these locations, page by page, and could not find them. I did find their son Alfred in local directories for 1942, as you will see on his page, but not on census records.


Herman’s great granddaughter (my mother) remembers Grimmer’s living in either Frankfurt or Mohawk (had to have been in the 40‘s-50‘s, possibly 60‘s, but does not remember her Grimmer family ever having any contact with them so she thought they may have not been related in any way.  She thinks they owned a furniture store in Frankfurt.


 
Louis Herman Grimmer [my 2nd great grandfather]

Birth: 7 Dec 1866 in Leipzig, Stötteritz, Saxony, Germany

Death: 6 Oct 1928 in Leipzig, Stötteritz, Saxony, Germany

 

ANCESTOR

SPOUSE

m1-Johanna M Poetzch - (1867-1920) married about 1886 in Germany

m2-Unknown - married in Germany, left her as a widow in 1928.

CHILDREN

  1. 1.Herman Carl Charles Grimmer (1886-)

  2. 2.Alfred Luella Grimmer (1889-)

  3. 3.Emil A Grimmer (1890-)

  4. 4.Carl Grimmer (1892-1894)

  5. 5.Anna M Grimmer (1893-1974)

  6. 6.Fritz Ernst “Fred” Grimmer  (1895-)

  7. 7.Richard E Grimmer (1898-)

  8. 8.Paul Grimmer (1901-)

PARENTS

August Grimmer & Wilhelmine (Grimmer)

        (1830-)                      (1830-1893)

TIME LINE

  1. BulletFamily information from Interview with Joanne (Grimmer) Wright, granddaughter of Thomas Fortune

  2. BulletFamily information from Interview with John & Barbara Grimmer, grandson of Thomas Fortune

  3. BulletNY Passenger Ship Records, 1820-1957; Year: 1887; Arrival: New York , United States; Microfilm Serial: M237; Microfilm Roll: M237_510; Line: 7; List Number: 1027; Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010; http://www.ancestry.com

  4. BulletHamburg Passenger Lists, 1850-1934;Staatsarchive Hamburg,  373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 059 A, Seite   101(Mikrofilm Nr.  K_1736,; Staatsarchiv Hamburg. Hamburg Passenger Lists, 1850-1934 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008.; http://www.ancestry.com

  5. BulletSteber’s Herkimer County, New York Directory; Little Falls and Dolgeville, 1889-90 , page 258; http://www.ancestry.com

  6. BulletHerman Grimmer and Family and Karl Grimmer & Family; NY State Census Collection for 1892; Ancestry.com. New York State Census Collection [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005.; Microfilmed copies of the originals can be found at the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, as well as the Family History Library.; http://www.ancestry.com

  7. BulletHerman and Carl Grimmer; William’s Little Falls & Dolgeville New York Directory for 1893 and 1894, page 154; http://www.ancestry.com

  8. Bullet1900 US Federal Census Record; Year: 1900; Census Place: Manheim, Herkimer, New York; Roll: T623_1040; Page: 16B; Enumeration District: 59.; Ancestry.com. 1900 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.; http://www.ancestry.com

  9. BulletFarewell Concert, Utica Herald-Dispatch, Wednesday Evening, 13 Aug 1902, page 5; http://www.fultonhistory.com

  10. BulletPersonal Note-Herman Grimmer and daughter Anna; Utica NY Observer, Monday, 22 Aug 1910, page 3; http://www.fultonhistory.com

  11. BulletTransfer of Property, Utica Herald Dispatch, Tuesday Evening, 16 Apr 1907; http://www.fultonhistory.com

  12. Bullet1910 US Federal Census Record; Year: 1910; Census Place: Manheim, Herkimer, New York; Roll: T624_952; Page: 17B; Enumeration District: 0029; Image: 540; FHL Number: 1374965.; Ancestry.com. 1910 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006.; http://www.ancestry.com

  13. BulletTrip to Spruce Lake; The Utica Sunday Tribune; 4 July 1915, page 3; http://www.fultonhistory.com

  14. Bullet1920 US Federal Census Record; Year: 1920;Census Place: Dolgeville, Herkimer, New York; Roll: T625_1115; Page: 12B; Enumeration District: 40; Image: 1318.; Ancestry.com. 1920 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.; http://www.ancestry.com

  15. BulletU.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925; National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), Washington D.C.; Passport Applications, January 2, 1906 - March 31, 1925; Microfilm Serial: M1490;Roll #1324.; Ancestry.com. U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2007.;  http://www.ancestry.com

  16. BulletAnnie Grimmer’s Death Announcement; Little Falls NY Journal and Courier, 8 Jun 1920; www.fultonhistory.com

  17. BulletHerman Grimmer’s Leave of Absence from Shoe Factory; Little Falls NY Journal and Courier, 24 Aug 1920; www.fultonhistory.com

  18. BulletHerman Grimmer’s Death Announcement; Utica NY Observer, dated 15 Oct 1928; www.fultonhistory.com

  19. BulletFamily data from Broderbund WFT Vol. 2, Ed. 1, Tree #2717, CD, Date of Import: Dec 6, 1998

  20. BulletHerman & Johanna (Poetzch) Grimmer; Dolgeville Cemetery Listing, Herkimer County NYGenWeb; http://herkimer.nygenweb.net

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